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Plants Turned Hermaphrodite What Do I Do?

Ive been budding for about 6 1/2 weeks now and sadly 2 days ago i noticed these small like seedpods on some of the budding sites,
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i’m going twords the plant being a Hermaphrodite but still trying to convince myself otherwise? My first thoughts were to kill the plant instantly then i got thinking and decided to look at all my other plants closely and look to see if any other plants have started to develope the seed pods.. Well like i thought 3 other plants have slowly started to develop seed pods as well, maybe 2-3 on each plant right now but i see no evidence of banannas forming anywhere on any of the plants im just thinking it isn’t to bad.. I think i am just going to finish flowering the seven plants, most likely all 7 are hermies now so there’s no point in just killing the infected three plants because there all Hermed out.. I mise well try and get the Trichomes to get the most ambered i can before i chop them, I mean unless there is just to much seed production that it will ruin the smoke, then i will just chop them down. I have not seen one bananna on any of the plants though that is why i am so confused.I will take any comments or advise. what does everyone think should i kill my whole crop or just let them go, there all so frosty its so hard to kill them but i dont want my weed to be full of seeds either. For now though im just gonna let them grow and hope that to many seeds dont appear.

Please Any Feedback Helps Should I Let Them Go?

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you could turn off the fans bit and pick off the pollinators.

they wont come back, bit of a work though if you have many or big plants, probably wont get them all, unless you are diligent.

the bananas dont necessarily have to be fertile either.

but if there is a lot of them and they do pollinate the plants, expect 90% seeds and 10% buds, so if thats the case, might as well pull the plants now and start over, make hash or budder or something, depending on the quality of smoke (mine are fine at 6 weeks plus, bit speedier smoke and lighter harvest of course, but not bad)

id probably pick off the bananas.if i didnt have any smoke or plants ready to go into flowering, but you´d better hurry. just use your fingers.

some might be inside the buds.

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but, he´s right, i dont see any bananas, though only a small portion of the picture is in focus, not a hint of bananas though.

if you are sure, take a better picture of them.

but looks like paranoia.

so small tip, learn to relax. dont worry so much.

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if there are allready seeds, its allready seeded itself and the bananas are probably dead.

watch the plant, is it still growing (aside from the seeded bud, that wont grow no more, just build seeds)

if it is, you might let it just go on and fill out, the seeds will turn out female and will probably hermy the same (odds on that anyway)

and therefore bunk.

if its not growing, dunno if the thc will mature that much, with seeds in there, probably. might give it a bit more time, unless you got some plants ready for 12/12 or need to save electricity.

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Could be a neighbor with a male. pollen can travel a mile or more and be sucked in by your fans. Don’t worry until you see some real seeds, if you are not finding any bananas ( they can be sneaky) you probably won’t get many seeds. but I sure wouldn’t wait for amber if you do confirm seeds. I have smoked many fine buds still in clear without even cloudy showing. The longer you let them go, the more seeds.

Had a morph late in my last crop, ended up with maybe 5 seeds on each plant, pretty much confined to one bud and not spread all over the plant. But until you truly confirm seeds. don’t worry.

What Are Autoflower Hermies (Hermaphrodites)?

Hermaphrodite or “hermie” cannabis plant simply saying is a one sex plant that develops opposite sex flowers.

Autoflowering cannabis growers usually come across hermaphrodites that are females and show some male flowers. But the opposite can also happen and a male plant can show female flowers.

When a male autoflower plant shows female flowers it is usually called the “backward” hermaphrodite and they are seen far less often because growers usually grow females and exterminate the males.

This phenomena of one sex auto cannabis plants turning hermie can be explained in two ways:

  1. Genetic hermaphrodites: These plants are genetically programmed to be hermies and they will do that in any conditions.
  2. Stress-induced hermaphrodites: These are plants that are pure females/males and are stressed in some way to produce other sex flowers. The most typical ways to induce other sex flowers on autoflowering cannabis plant is to stress it by changing the light cycle rapidly, fluctuate the PH of the water and soil, introduce temperature shock by increasing and lowering the temperature, and introducing chemicals like “gibberellic Acid”,” Colloidal Silver” that encourages the plant to change sex.

Hermaphrodite pros and cons

Hermaphrodites are usually considered a bad thing and growers tend to exterminate them before these female cannabis plants can develop fully functioning male flowers and ruin the sinsemilla crop. In fact, if a genetic hermie plant pollinates himself or any other female there is a 50% chance of these next-generation seeds to become hermaphrodites and that is the real reason why people fear hermies.

But there is a good side of hermaphrodites too! Cannabis plants typically are females (they have xx chromosome) or males ( xy chromosome) but if you induce these plants to stress then you can get the opposite sex flowers to appear on the plant.

If a genetic female that has only the xx chromosome produces a male flower it can only transfer the x chromosome and if this pollen is collected and another genetic female is pollinated with this exact pollen then the offspring (seed) will only have the xx chromosomes and it will produce almost all females. This is one of the ways how seed companies produce the famous feminized autoflowering seeds. There is always a small possibility that a feminized seed will become a hermaphrodite but it is far more likely to get a female than a hermie.

So if you have stressed your plants and some of your females start showing male flowers you can in fact collect this pollen from these male flowers and pollinate some other females and produce your own feminized seeds. This is a good way to get cheap autoflowering feminized seeds and with a small amount of work and a ruined plant (hermie) can in fact become very valuable.

If you try to produce these feminized seeds you must be sure that the autoflower hermie plant was stressed properly before producing the male flowers and not just producing these opposite sex flowers in perfect conditions because if the plant turns hermie easily the “feminized” seeds can be unstable and produce a much larger percentage of hermies than usual.

Experienced breeders and seed producers take only the strongest females that show no weakness of becoming hermaphrodite and stress them almost to their death and only then these strong autoflower females start producing male flowers and that pollen will make a real feminized seed!

If you think about these feminized seeds and their advantages then you can see that any amount of hermie/female ratio will be better than the % that you get from regular cannabis seeds because from regular seeds you can get males, females, and hermie plants but if you eliminate the male plant from the equation then chances of the plant being female is much higher.

Backward hermies

Backward hermaphrodites are also a good thing and some growers say that with these backward hermaphrodites you can produce the most potent and most resinous females and also get a better female to male ratio of those backward hermie seeds.

These weird hermies are very rare appearance and there is not much information about their positive and negative traits but the potential of these male hermaphrodites is huge and we need to do more research to fully understand these plants.

Mature female hermies

Another form of hermaphroditism is the male flowers that sometimes appear in the last days of a flowering female cannabis plant. These females are not considered hermies and that is a natural occurrence of some cannabis strains.

This phenomenon can be exploited to once again produce feminized autoflowering seeds but these male flowers that grow in the last days of flowering need time to mature and in most cases your plant will be worthless when these male flowers are ready to spread pollen and most growers ignore them and harvest that plant anyway.

But if you let that plant grow out the male flowers and collect that pollen then it is a good way to make feminized seeds but that female who produced those male flowers will be worthless because the THC will most likely be degraded by the time the male flowers are mature enough to spread pollen.

Hermaphrodite? C99 Mid-Flower – Is this a male seed pod?

COCO COIR Hermaphrodite? C99 Mid-Flower – Is this a male seed pod?

Hi, was just examining my plant 3rd week of flower, after defoliation, and noticed these things circled in RED. Are these signs of my girl turning into a hermaphrodite? If so, should I just pluck those pods off?

Please help. I’ll try and take better pictures if you all can’t tell.

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Aggressive eh? 9finger, when someone talk aggressive like that, ignore it. Lotusyde, perhaps a little bit more humility would be good. Don’t you know we always learn new things over a life time? I ain’t pro, i’m a big newbie, but this concept works for everything, especially something as growing plants/vegetables. You have a right to have your own opinion, but don’t force it on others please.

I clearly see pistils on the top of the plant. That was a female that turned male. If I understand correctly what you said, you don’t disagree isn’t it? You said any female can turn into a male " A plant can hermie in all stages and if it did so the early then it pretty much a male because it’s genetics were weak". Then what’s the argument about?

only just read this otherwise I would have commented sooner.

mate, talking down to someone over their choice of lighting is pretty low. Everyone’s situation is different, everyone has different budgets and yield requirements. If someone gets enough stash from their grow, no matter how cheap or substandard it may be it’s still a win for the grower.

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The first pic, definitely female. Some of the others are a little questionable, but it’s hard to see, I feel like I also see pistils. If you’re noticing more than two of the pre-flowers and no pistils yet, I would start watching very closely.

Sometimes you have male pollen sacs appear above the buds. This is a hermaphrodite plant that shows both male and female pre-flowers in the same bud site. The male and female flowers grow very similarly in shape, though some are producing pollen while others are producing pistils. The plant is confused.

Sometimes you also have female preflowers that look male, because each strain has different looking pre-flowers. This preflower is surprisingly a female plant, the preflower opened up with a pistil and all the calyxes grew in like that. No hermies in the end.

Female Pre-Flower

But here is a male plant, with preflowers that look very similar, though slightly more spade shaped and more narrow at the base. Female preflowers tend to be pointy at the top, with a fat base that attaches directly to the stem (not on a little stem, like many male pre-flowers). Whenever in doubt, it’s better to wait since sometimes you’ll be surprised!

Male Pre-Flower

Male pre-flowers tend to be "spade" shaped

Here are more pics of female pre-flowers and hermie plants if you want to check them out!